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they will be taxed at a much lower rate. take a look at the dow jones industrials. we are seeing triple digit gains for pretty much all of the session for the blue chips. money flowing into financials. citigroup is jumping. of nearly 6%. the story there, job cuts. 11,000 of them. leading to a billion dollars in savings. additional layoffs somewhere else down the line. investors are getting this move a thumbs up. we know it is tough for employees. the stock is up more than 7% today. bank of america, as you see, moving higher. the biggest gainer on the dow. jpmorgan solidly in the green. a totally different story at the nasdaq. down on the session. apple getting a 5% haircut at the moment. just under 5%. perhaps tied to the apple, samsung dispute. there is a big court hearing tomorrow. samsung is expected to ask the judge for a brand-new trial. apple down 22% from its september highs. right around the time where the iphone5 with release. the markets showing more conviction today. let's get right to the floor show. i rub, in chicago, i want to start with you. very shallow moves up and down. >> we are
tax cut to avoid the cliff for now. then come back with more leverage. to tie it to a hike in the debt ceiling. >> we are 23409 going play that game next year. if congress in any way suggests that they are going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, take us to brink of default again, i will not play that game. >> republicans held their own meeting with small business owners denying they're trying to punt. >> i'll be here and available at any moment to sit down with the president to get serious abouting the problem. >> they noted the president has not scheduled any meetings with the g.o.p. leaders in weeks. not offered any counterproposal to boehner's plan from last week. >> a balanced approach the president has been asking for. now we need response from the white house. >> reporter: they continue to insist the impediment to the deal is boehner's tax revenue is not enough. the holdup is boehner took a position the day after the campaign that said we are willing to bring in revenue but not increase rates. >> reporter: two summers ago the president himself claimed he could raise more
cost of living increases for social security benefits. they also propose overhauling the tax code to generate $800 billion in new revenue. but without raising taxes on the wealthy. in a letter to the president, leading republicans compared their plan to one erskine bowles drew up last year. >> not even close. >> he rejected that connection and the white house, of course, is hitting the road. we'll get to that in a moment. but here's my question. i've been watching the coverage of this and reading it. and there's a lot of liberals who were like, he won, ha, ha, they're so arrogant about it, it's hard to like them. because it's just not attractive. but he did -- >> yeah, he won. >> and he is going to the american people with this. and why can't the starting point of these negotiations be about the tax rates and go from there. why are we at square one? and why is this on the president at this point? since he won. i understand the first four years being kind of bruising. >> right. >> but -- at what point does he have the right to draw a line in the sand? >> so he has every right to dr
way. it's the set of automatic spending cuts and tax hikes that can only be averted if our nation's leaders are able to display bear bones competence and middle school-level maturity. so is there a deal? >> there's, of course, no deal. >> of course! is there a prospect for a deal? >> there's not a prospect for a deal. >> of course! but the ongoing talks. >> there aren't even very many talks going on. >> you're killing us! give us something. >> but for the first time, there are numbers on pieces of paper from both sides. >> numbers on paper! >>> good morning. it's wednesday, december 5th. welcome to "morning joe." live in the nation's capital. this is exciting. and you know, i said, let's do a show from washington, d.c., because they get so much stuff done there. it's like silicon valley. and going there when steve jobs was really bringing apple to the forefront -- >> a happening place. >> it is. it's where things happen. that's why we're here, steve rattner. >> washington is the place. with us on set, economic analyst steve rattner. also political editor and white house correspond
business leaders he is cheering for their success. tax hikes for the wealthy saying there will be no deal without tax rate increases. melissa: 11,000 now out of work at citi. slashing jobs taking a billion dollars charge as it repositioned oppositions. charlie gasparino tells us it is even more cuts are on the way. lori: new warnings and ethanol blended gasoline. joining us on whether you should be worried about what you put into your gas tank. let's get up to speed, back the floor of the new york stock exchange and nicole petallides. economic data on the service industry. nicole: looking good, lori and melissa. up 125 points. after two days of selling we are seeing some market action to the upside. we are above the 13,000 mark, well above that. 13,076. the nasdaq squeezing it out. concern for apple, but financials are doing well. let's take a look at the group. laying off 11,000 workers, that is the plan. a new ceo in place and he wants to make his mark. up 6.5%. it is under pressure, nowhere near $700 for the all-time high in september. the latest findings other actually going to use th
lied on this is the campaign to raise taxes on wealthier americans. he says it is all part of the budget that he has put out over the last few years. that budget calling for tax increases over the next decade on families earning more than $250,000 a year. he campaigned on march revenue less than that. tax deductions they can't, they just say they would not raise tax rates. that really has been the key to all of this. connell: we are kind of caught in the middle. you saw the president speaking on the screen while rich was speaking. the audio still is not quite right of it. thank you. there we go. citigroup. another big story today. the stock has been up. 11,000 people, though, losing their jobs. that is what happens a lot of times when you cut jobs. dagen: listen up, verizon wants to collect information from infrared cameras and microphones in your living room. you want to see somebody who is hot, the judge. you will hear how he feels about that very thing. connell: it was a seven figure year. we will tell you exactly how much he brought in. first, the oil market today. 87.6
. think of all those gas taxes that were to pay for those bridges, or tolls of no bridges to pay for fixing those bridges, and highways. think about that social security lockbox. no box, no lock. and millions in lottery ticket to go to education to make our kids smarter, today, sadly, they are only getting dumber. while we open our hearts let's not lose our minds. the folks deserve better to be locked out of a lockbox, and to be taken by greedy politicians who find other uses on the backs of that. not fair, not right. not remotely the thing to do. to staten islander john d'backo who knows of what i speak. he took matters in his own hand with his brother and buddies, made things right, here is john on the phone with the story. you quickly seize the initiative and did a lot more on just a local level. than fema. >> well, neil, as you know my house was affected my family was, but after stabilizing our situation we took a look around two days later, and we saw a bunch of federal response, out there with clip boards taking notes but we did not see boots on the ground helping people. y
the average middle-class family would have to pay about $2,000 a year more in taxes. house speaker john bain of lands the stalemate on the obama administration. he says they are not taking republicans seriously and plans to close loopholes and lit it deductions without raising taxes. >> i realize of the president may not agree but if there is another way to get revenue from upper income americans that doesn't ruin our economy why don't we consider it? >> we won them to tell the american why they won't do it. >> the democratic controlled senate has are the agreed to extend the bush tax cuts for incomes under $250,000 but let the other tax cut expire. it is predicted their rugby at least a short-term deal released before the end of the year. >> of when it comes to a president's second inauguration at the crowd tends to be smaller. that will be the case again this january. the cross the present obama as inauguration on january 21st will be close to 800,000. that is the estimate right now. that is down quite a bit from the 1.8 million people crowded the national mall and 2008. >> i think that is
: president obama met with ceos head of the looming deadline for tax cuts and spending cuts. david: a fiscal deal could be reached in a week. rich edson with the latest. it was an off the record meeting. this is a meeting that affects all of us. speak of the business roundtable says all the meetings are off the table and they have the initial remarks live and available to the press. in that the president did say we could settle this issue in a week if republicans relent on their position for taxes. offering $800 billion in tax revenue, coming from only closing loopholes and seductions, no to a tax rate increase for the president says it is making $250,000 or more, tax rates are going up. >> we will not raise them just out of spite, but rather because the need to raise a certain amount of revenue. >> the president doesn't agree with our proposal and our outline, think he has an obligation to send one to the congress. and a plan that could pass both chambers of commerce. if you look at the plans the white house has talked about thus far, they couldn't pass either house of the congress. >> high
tax cuts hostage simply because they refuse to let the tax rates go up on the wealthiest americans. >> the republicans call this a bait and switch. >> alisyn: we'll debate. >> dave: one massachusetts town rolling out the welcome mat to long islanders for christmas tree lighting after the they refused to budge on the holiday event. the p.c. please. >> should you tip your garbage collector or how about your child's teacher? we have tips for tipping or the barista at starbucks. >> dave: no! sorry, ladies and gentlemen. >> "fox & friends" begins right now. ♪ >> are you supposed to tip the teacher. >> dave: some are, some are not. >> you want to err on the side of tipping and is it too much. do you tip the garbage man or the postal employee. you leave a bunt cake outside. >> alisyn: yes, money. they want money. >> dave: we'll get into it later, but it's tough because it used to be you tip someone for extraordinary service. >> alisyn: right. >> dave: now you just tip someone please. >> alisyn: so they don't egg your house, that's why you're tipping. >> and go to ff weekend and fire it
tobacco taxes. cigarette smuggling has dramatically increased in virginia because it is more profitable than drug dealing. >> president obama has declared a major disaster in d.c. after super storm sandy. this opens up federal money to help cover any emergency work and repairs from the powerful storm. the money will be used to invest in measures to protect against future disasters. more funds to open down the road depended on further damage assessment. >> coming up, an attempted steal thousands. police say someone tried to blow up an atm machine. >> starbucks can be expensive and not. we will tell you what the company wants you to spend $400 this holiday season. on one item. >> the showdown over the fiscal cliff. a new poll suggests president obama has the american people's support when it comes to taxing the wealthy. this poll shows nearly half of those surveyed once bush eras tax cuts to expire for those making more than $250,000 a year. the poll was taken last weekend. the questions did lean more to the men -- to the democratic party. eric cantor says republicans want to sit down wit
if republicans refuse to raise taxes on the 2%. >> if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. again, there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest americans -- remember, it's only 2%. the size of the problem in some sense is so large, it can't be solved without rates going up as part of that. again, i think there's broad recognition of that reality now. >> one fallback option republicans are reportedly considering is to accept tax cuts for the middle class, allow rates to go up for the wealthiest, and then start the fight over again during debt limit talks early next year. yesterday at a business roundtable of ceos, president obama took a hard line, warning his opponents not to consider this strategy. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to dell creting votes and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation, which, by the way, we have never done in our history until we did it last year, i wil
cliff related selling as shareholders worries that capital gains tax rates will be higher next year. >> still, financial planner sharon appleman says selling stock solely for tax reasons isn't the best idea. >> i definitely think it's a legitimate concern and can be an opportunity. and i would say if somebody was interested in reducing a physician any-- position anyway, that can certainly be a great time to do it, you know, why pay higher taxes in a few months time when you can pay a lower tax now. >> reporter: and some analysts say, before unloading the shares, consider that fundamentals for apple haven't really changed. sure, revenue growth may slow and margins may contract, and there are worries the tech giant will have trouble fending off competition from increasingly popular android products. but, to some analysts, the shares look especially cheap today, especially considering their move south since the september high. >> we think the smart phone trend is still in the early to middle innings and is not in the late innings yet. so we think, to the extent that apple can maintain
. the white house promptly rebuffs the gop counterproposal which calls for $800 billion in new tax revenue but without tax rate increases for the wealthy. could this tax issue deadlock the talks? >>> bank of america ceo warns the cliff must get stalled or the economy could be stifled well into 2014. >>> even more dividends pushed into 2012. coach, american eagle moving up and oracle will play out three-quarters of dividends this year. >>> more strength in housing this morning. toll brothers earnings top expectations. we'll begin with the fiscal cliff. governors are set to meet today with the president and congressional leaders. governors are concerned about the impact of deficit reduction measures on their state budgebu. the latest gop offer would overhaul the tax code, raise $800 billion in new revenue but seek $600 billion in health savings, net savings add up to about $2.2 trillion over ten years. boehner called the white house's original offer la la land and it does appear that even though at one point bowles endorsed a blueprint like this, he's trying to distance himself from it right
as mitt romney did during the debates. they don't add up. if you don't increase the tax rates on the highest 2%, you cannot generate enough revenue for deficit reduction. unfortunately, the changes in the tax code, which is republicans want to turn to will increase taxes and cut tax deductions for the middle class americans. >> all right. joining me now, contributing editor for the daily beast. we just heard from democratic senator there. does that sound like any progress has been made? as we talk about 23 days, that doesn't take into account we are looking at december 21st. if you happen to watch that on television, it looks like both sides are hardening. the cement is getting thicker. there's a growing recognition on the republican side that they have lost the debate over the higher tax rates and that those rates will go up. and there are lots of other tax increases that aren't getting the public attention. the rate at which capital gains are taxed. the rate that is paid on dividend income. i'm stumbling over my words because i don't have a lot in that category. i think the
tax cuts from the republicans are swept away. but it's too early. it's only december 6. we've got until december 31st and in washington that's a long time. >> a lifetime. you wrote yesterday the republicans are waving a white flag as big as a bed sheet. you wrote "right now bain ser hoping to lead his fractious gop to an orderly surrender. the question is no longer whether republicans will give on taxes, they already have. all that remains to be be negotiated is how they will increase taxes. s so what's the likely scenario as you see it now? >> the fact they have surrendered, saying we're offering up an $800 billion tax increase, that's a big deal but it doesn't save us from the fiscal cliff. as susan was suggesting, there's a long time to go between now and the 31st. they have to wait until that long because neither side wants to appear to be giving in too early. that means they've given away more than they had to. you've got the president out there stirring the pot, trying to bring public opinion more to his side. the republicans are struggling to find some message to keep up wi
tax bracket as of yet. there's no mustard on there, is there? i'll see you in a little bit, mr. barnicle. thank you, john. "morning joe" starts right now. >>> i think they won the election. they must have forgotten that republicans continue to hold the majority in the house. but, you know, the president's idea of a negotiation is roll over and do what i ask. we need to find common ground, and we need to find it quickly. >> good morning. it's monday, december the 3rd here in new york city. the christmas tree all lit up. with us on set, msnbc contributor mike barnicle, pulitzer prize-winnering historian jon meacham, author of "thomas jefferson." "fortune's" assistant managing editor leigh gallagher and political analyst, former chairman of the rnc, michael steele. and i'm willie geist. joe and mika have the day off today. there's so much to talk about, but we do have to begin with the ties, if we could. it's not just mike. mike's getting all the focus here this morning, and that is inexcusable. >> could i just say, in the words of speaker john boehner, we need to find common grou
which have stalled on discussions over taxes. and singapore airlines confirms it's in talks to sell its stake in virgin atlantic. delta is amongst the frontrunners. comes around quickly. december, we're already here. not long before christmas and we have the november final pmis out of the eurozone confirmed at 46.2. that was the flash, 45.4 was october. so slightly higher. the highest since march. but 46 still deep in contraction territory. output numbers, 46.1. so that's going in the right direction. and the final manufacturing pmi export orders 46.4. again, a tick higher than the 45.9 flash, the highest since march. so the contraction activity easing to an eight month low if you can explain away like that. euro-dollar 1.3026. we did gets a high as 1.3048 which would have been a six week high for euro-dollar. joining us for more is alan capp, head of credit straebtegyt lloyds. alan, let's get your reaction. the number is going in the right direction. does it make much of a difference? >> right now the equity markets have had a great run. they're looking a bit overstretched. so i'm stru
with the leadership on the tax issue. there's talk now that some republicans might be willing to accept higher taxes for the wealthy. this would be a break-through. we're monitoring that. now to what sue was talking about on apple. there are some firms raising margin requirements. i think the main catalyst today was an at&t investor conference where executives of at&t gave sales figures for smartphones for the first two months of the quarter that basically implied sales will be flat for the quarter compared to the same period last year. this includes smartphones, samsung as well as the iphone. the concern is that iphone sales might disappoint a little bit here. ipad shares may be on the weak side of the tablet market. >>> citigroup laying off 1,000 people and the financials are the bright spot of the day. very depressing story, frankly. >> it is at this time year to lose that many jobs. thank you, bob pisani. we'll cover apple in-depth later in the hour. >>> it is worth taking another look at citi. trading up almost 6.5% at $36.49. the banking giant slashing 11,000 jobs, taking up to $1 billion in c
control of debt limit. >> steve: republicans are saying let's cave and surrender on the tax issue. but coming up in 2013 we have leverage over the debt limit. remember the president of the united states his personal approval ratings went in the toilet. >> brian: as is the congress. >> steve: the congress didn't have as far to because they were close to the floor anyway. republicans say let's have leverage next time and the president said let's take that off of the table and from now on the president doesn't have to negotiate from congress. congress doesn't like that one bit. >> gretchen: usually when you are holding the cards in the negotiation you don't have to budge. that's the position the president and time geithner feel. they feel they hold the cards and they won the election and they believe the american poll believe the rich should be taxed more. that's why they are holding firm. i found it interesting that they floated out the leaks to the press yeah, the president would be willing to go over the fiscal cliff and then he sent out his guy tim geithner in the interview and a
the basis of a deal. the president is now talking about actually lowering the tax rate for the top 2% not now but later. and republicans are now taking some heat over their latest plan a lot of it from within their own party. >> five, four -- >> reporter: house speaker john boehner led the countdown to the lighting of the capitol hill christmas tree last night. >> one. >> reporter: but a different countdown weighs on the minds of these lawmakers, the countdown to the fiscal cliff. a series of tax increases and spending cuts due to kick in at the end the year. >> god bless us, everyone. >> reporter: speaker boehner offered the republican proposal this week and now he faces opposition from president obama. >> the speaker's proposal is out of balance. >> reporter: some in his own party are lining up against him. jim demint a tea party leader said speaker boehner's $800 billion tax hike will destroy american jobs and allow politicians in washington to spend even more. disagreements among republicans and democrats here on capitol hill is nothing new, but tuesday a republican aide told us
increase in tax revenue of $800 billion obtained by reducing or eliminating unspecified tax deductions was taken seriously by no one in the senate except republican jim demipt. speaker boehner's $800 billion tax hike will destroy american jobs. the heritage foundation skewered the boehner counteroffer on its blog. at first blush, it appears little more than categorical preemptive capitulation. to be fair, the details of the republican proposal are extraordinarily vague to the extent it can be interpreted from the hazy details that it is utterly unacceptable. president obama said today there is a time and a place to discuss reforming the tax code. but that time is not now. >> what i've suggested is let's put a down payment on taxes, let's let tax rates on the upper income folks go up. let's let those go up. and then let's set up a process with a time certain at the end of 2013 or the fall of 2013 where we work on tax reform. we look at what loopholes and deductions both democrats and republicans are willing to close. and it is possible that we may be able to lower rates by broadening th
liquidators, the intransigence the mean-spirited debates, the pledge is not to raise taxes, it's costing this nation a once in a lifetime opportunity to reassert itself as the leader of the free world. and faster growing the repressive communist world to boot. your inability to give us a deal, any deal is crushing our economy. allow me to explain. since i read @jimcramer on twitter, people say i'm biased. i believe that the compromise which all the common sense people are looking for, some combination of spending cuts, higher taxes and pro-growth initiatives doesn't come into play anymore in washington. too many pledges, too much ideology. i am part of the 2% that's going to have to pay more. i have the highest effective tax rate possible, 48% for a variety of reasons. but i am willing to pay more because i used to pay more at one time and i'm grateful for what this country has done for me. i know that those of us are lucky enough to have done well in this country have had a really good run and it's time to show some gratefulness, even if we think the government may be profligate with so
payments set in august. >>> starbucks executives will pay 20 million pounds in corporate tax to the british government. lawmakers are accusing the u.s. coffee chain of tax avoidance. officials of the chain announce it will pay 10 million pounds, or about $16 million each year in 2013 and 2014. they say they'll do it regardless of whether the company is profitable. starbucks entered the british market in 1998. the chain now has over 700 outlets across the country. but the company posted a profit only once since then, and its official paid no corporate tax for the last three years. starbucks officials said they haven't turned a profit because of high rents and brand royalties paid to their amsterdam-based group firm. tax rates in the netherlands are lower than in britain. they say they will pay more tax in the two years than is required under british law. >>> the asian development bank has raised this year's outlook for five emerging economies. its board members cite strong growth in southeast asia, especially in the philippines and malaysia. the bank's board members revised their estimate fr
and amazon of avoiding their taxes or minimizing them and not the right way. we'll have a live report. everything has to be just right. perfection is in the details. ♪ get to holiday fun faster with pillsbury cookie dough. five days later, i had a massive heart attack. bayer aspirin was the first thing the emts gave me. now, i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. [ woman ] learn from my story. >>> welcome back, everyone. while washington bickers over the fiscal cliff and who's going to pay more in taxes, in great britain, lawmakers are telling some american companies it is time to start paying their fair share there in the uk. even throwing around terms such as shame, outrageous when talking about it. executives from google, amazon, and starbucks all appeared before a parliamentary committee looking into how international companies minimize the tax they pay in the uk. richard quest is in london to explain it all. now, richard, not necessarily talking about tax evasion here. it's more like avoidance, mini
it up. but, may not be the protection. it doubles the tax on dividends. can't be in there saying -- darden. one of the biggest retail juggernauts. the gap. sales have become sloppy to surrender $3.57 or 10%. although that doesn't spell the death of retailers, we go off the charts tonight. sectors are really doing -- how are they doing? we just witnessed -- relentless pressure in the oil sector. the department doesn't believe going over the cliff will stifle energy command. today is the first day when the group got any lift at all. so what do we do? people are worried the economy is slowing because of the cliff. so what do we do? is it game over for equities should i take my -- hall of fame today and just go home? no, no, no. let me first say absolutely not. we simply have to get eveninger to a cliff resolution or to a situation where no one expects resolution. going with the latter, hey, that is new. let me walk you through here. today last week. last week, genuine hope a deal would get done. today, last week. if you recall, we heard from a host of executives. they met with the p
school funding tax increased last month. we'll have a live report on that just ahead. >> a certain type of aspirin >> a certain type of aspirin may not be as beneficial you know how much grandma wanted to be here for your fist christmas? you see grandma lives waaaay down here, and you live way up here. brian, your cousin, he's a little bit older than you, he lives here, in chicago. and your aunt lisa lives here, in baltimore. uncle earnie? waaay out in hawaii. but don't you worry, we will always be together for christmas. [ male announcer ] being together is the best part of the holidays and cheerios is happy to be part of the family. you just ate dallas! >> with storms we've had since last week two, places have been hit hardest. north bay ask santa cruz mountains. let's check in now with the santa cruz mountains. >> right. though it did not rain hard all day, rain, wet weather is persistent. hills are of course, saturated. so we got a new problem here in the santa cruz mountains today, but first let's give you[ylh good news. take a look at the video. after hard work strin hill road is
than doubles the tax on dividends. we saw one of the biggest retail jugger nauts, the gap. sales have become sloppy to surrender $3.57 or 10%. although that doesn't spell the death of retailers, we go off the charts tonight. and we witnessed downward pressure in the oil sector. today is the first day when the group got any lift at all. so what do we do? is it game over for equities should i go home? no, no, no. let me first say absolutely not. we have to get either to a cliff resolution, or so the situation where no one expects the resolution. going with the latter, hey, that is new. let me walk you through here. today last week. if you recall, we heard from a host of executives. they felt like compromise was in the air. it was real and eminent. we heard from the ceo of goldman sachs. it could be hammered out without real difficulty if it were in the private sector. when i heard those execs touch base with them and spoke with them on both sides of the aisle i thought there would be more common ground. that the common ground somewhat a loser. and the refuse al to negotiate and to never
%. >> we're looking at the potential of bringing in more than $500 million each year in new tax revenue. >> reporter: the big question still, what will the federal government do? pot is still illegal federally. today a legal toak-up revolution burning here in colorado. the only things the feds are saying at this point is that marijuana is still illegal federally. think of it this way in washington state, it will be treated like booze, basically, hard liquor. you have to be 21. you can get busted for dui, can't drink it in public, those sorts of things. all those rules are yet to be written, in a year or so you'll have pot stores all over this state. back to you. >> a number of big employers like boeing and costco ban their employees from smoking marge math. there are other companies that have to do drug testing. will this new law change anything for employers? can workers still get fired for testing positive? >> reporter: the simple answer is no, you can still get fired. you can't smoke pot and go to work. it doesn't change anything with regard to employers who have those rules in place
. >>> still no signs of progress between republicans and democrats as the year-end deadline to avoid tax hikes and spending cuts inches closer. no face-to-face talks are scheduled at this time. but as danielle nottingham reports, president obama is continuing his push to sell to the american public. >> reporter: house members left the capitol in the middle of the fiscal fight. they're not due back until next week. but house speaker john boehner is staying behind, ready to sit down with the president. >> we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> reporter: president obama is rejecting the republican propoise -- proposal because it does not raise taxes on households making more than $250,000 a year. the gop is offering to close tax loopholes and limit deductions instead. >> the revenues we're putting on the table are going to come from, guess who? the rich. >> reporter: republicans say if bush-era tax cuts are not extended for everyone, it will hurt the economy. and they invited small business owners here to capitol hill to make their point. >>
of continuing tax breaks for the wealthy, the obama administration is willing to go over this cliff which means they're willing to let your taxes go up and unemployment checks go away massive spending cuts happen if the pentagon instead of continuing the tax breaks for the wealthy. now there's been very little progress here on chiapitol hill which is why so many have gone home. we know that president obama and john boehner spoke by phone. republican sources telling us they had a conversation yesterday. we don't have a readout on what that was about. we don't know that if any meetings have been scheduled. but any small sign of progress is welcome here on capitol hill. now with so many lawmakers headed home and likely to face the ire of their constituents, we saw one protester in baltimore yesterday over social security. there are a few left. today there's a joint economic committee hearing. they're going to hear from a top economist not only about the jobs numbers coming out tomorrow but also about what can be done to avoid this issue at the end of the year. >> tracie potts for us in washington.
executives says the coffee company will pay more taxes in the company starting next year. the payments will amount to about $16 million u.s. starbucks along with google and amazon have been using legal loopholes to minimize their corporate taxes in britain. execs of all three companies recently got a public -- >> despite the fact that starbucks, how much money it makes. it's kind of like a drop in the bucket. >> well, yeah. yesterday we pointed out that between all the various ways that starbucks takes there is really nothing left, nothing at all left for profits. today what the company announced is that they are going to take the money that they pay in royalties and the money they pay on inter-company events like loans, and here going to no longer take deductions. what does this mean in reality? in practice it means there will be money, more money, for starbucks to pay as corporation tax, but here's the thing. >> okay. >> they say they'll pay maybe $50 million this year. the numbers are still being worked out. similar amount next year. well, you might have gotten that the british say,
a compromise before the end of the year, taxes will gun for everyone. danielle notingham reports for the white house. >> reporter: house members left the capitol in the middle of the fiscal fight. they're notue due back -- not due back until next week. but house speaker john boehner is staying behind, ready to sit down and negotiate with the president. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> reporter: president obama is rejecting the republican proposal because it does not raise taxes on households making $250,000 a year. the gop is offering to close tax loopholes and limit deductions instead. >> the revenues on the table are going to come from guess who? the rich. >> reporter: they say if the bush-era tax cuts aren't extended for everyone, it will hurt everyone. and they invited people here to make their point. >> reporter: max olson opened an insurance company this year and is concerned he won't be able to add employees. >> you add their payrolls, plus an extra tax amount, then i may not be able to hire them because of it. >> re
cliff which includes raising tax rats on higher-earning americans. >> we're not insisting on raises just out of spite or out of any kind of partisan bickering but rather because we -- we need to raise a certain amount of revenue. >> the president met with a group of ceos at the business round table and told them that he is hopeful that a deal can be reached in the following week that would head off the automatic tax hike and spending cuts from taking place in january. he said he has seen movement among republicans and that they might accept the tax hike if it is combined with entitlement reform and spending cuts. >>> te republican house majority leader told business leaders today president obama sms obsessed with raising tax. >>> we feel that's not the right direction to go, but we also feel that in that obsession is what he's about then let's at least do something about the spending problem. >> at the same meeth house speaker john baner said republicans have made a reasonable offer to the president with a balanced plan to raise revenues and cut spending. during a fla tla debate on the f
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